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<FONT SIZE="3" POINTSIZE="12" DEFAULT="SIZE">If I were you, I'd give up on the Gmail account and find another one that doesn't require TLS, SSL, or IMAP. I've tried Tbird 2.x twice, and given up on it; gone back to PMMail every time. Tbird is slow when the messages build up, especially when people insist on sending inline graphics; it tries to read all the graphics in the queue, even if you haven't opened them. The worst aspect of it and all the other clients, as opposed to PMMail, is that it is next to impossible to save a large archive of separate messages. I use PMMail filters to separate important messages from unimportant ones, and periodically copy them over to a backup drive, unzipped, using a simple file copy operation, before I clean out the mail folders. That way I can hunt for old mail using a regular text search in my file manager. I recentl had to find an email that was 10 years old and it took hardly any time at all. Once I found it, I was able to open it either in Notepad, with all the header information, or in PMMail itself just by double-clicking it. These programs that put all the emails for an account into one file drive me crazy, and I'll go down with the ship on this one. It took me three days to save out a few months' worth of individual emails in Tbird. And I'm not about to do it in every session.<BR>
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I'm glad you posted this. Now I'll be sure I never sign up for Gmail. I actually quit using earthlink for the most part (although I keep the account open) because they kept losing both incoming and outgoing emails. Since I had to open a website for myself anyway, I now use that as my main email account, and it doesn't require any of the fancy stuff, although you can opt for it if you want. It also has webmail, so you can check your mail from the road. I did this with Register.com. Check out their site. For a few bucks a year you can have email through them with less hassle and better reliability. (You don't have to design an actual website to get email through them. Just establish a domain.) Maybe not free, but the freedom from grief is so worth it, I can't recommend it highly enough.<BR>
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On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 15:07:05 -0500, Michael Lueck wrote:<BR>
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>Phil Morgan wrote:<BR>
>> Is there a way to create an SSL connection to use with PMMail as was <BR>
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>PMMail never had SSL nor TLS support.<BR>
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>GMail and Thunderbird work very nicely together using the IMAP interface. PMMail was only a POP client, no IMAP capabilities.<BR>
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>I would suggest you migrate your PMMail to Thunderbird 2.x.<BR>
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>Someone once developed a PMMail to TBird 2.x migration script in Perl. I used that to convert all of our PMMail installations over to TBird. I would be happy to provide you with a copy.<BR>
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>Sincerely,<BR>
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>Michael Lueck<BR>
>Lueck Data Systems<BR>
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Richard Beeson<br>
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Text-only (non-HTML) emails appreciated, <br>
with separate attachments (no inline graphics). <br>
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